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2021-05-16 02:37:32 RSK currently has $83,483,476 worth of Bitcoin locked - rBTC and rDAI are eating other blockchain's lunch. Bitcoin & RSK offer 80x cheaper TX fees.
https://www.btcnewz.com/en/blog/rdai-and-rbtc-what-are-they-?utm=tw

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2021-05-16 01:37:30 Inflation and The Bitcoin Takeover - Max Keiser




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2021-05-16 00:37:35 Why do we believe in a currency that can easily be manipulated by single tweet?

The whole point of crypto was no centralized system, and cutting the middle man, not dependent on government, so no inflation and such. list goes on.

However it is such a redflag to see a currency literally gains or loses 15-20% of its value within minutes based on someone's tweet. This was just Elon, now imagine CEO of square, or Coin, or Cathie Wood from ARK, can just make outlandish comment one day to create large swings and profit off of that.

What do you all think?

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2021-05-15 23:37:36 Mid May 2020 and Mid May 2021 for Bitcoin

I remember mid May 2020 like yesterday. The price of Bitcoin went from $9,900 down to $8,600 in a few days. A lot of people I told to invest in Bitcoin right after COVID-19 started got angry with me - many pulled their money out of it and walked away.

Price of Bitcoin on May 8, 2020 = $9,936

Price of Bitcoin on May 12, 2020 = $8,610

Here we are again, a year later. Same story - people telling me I should not be holding Bitcoin and to sell now.

Remember the long term goals people. As far as Tesla/Elon Musk - they are a blip on the radar at best for their comments this past week. They are supremely irrelevant tbh. Keep holding - for the (very) long term.

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2021-05-15 21:37:40 Stay Calm and HODL

Let's remember the fundamental truths:

1. Fed is not thinking of thinking about tapering (their own words)
2. M2 Money supply at record high and growing
3. Traditional asset classes at record valuations
1. Stocks are almost as expensive as before the dotcom bust
2. Real estate rental income does not match real estate prices
3. Bonds prices are artificially propped up
4. Crypto is a unique asset class and Bitcoin is the one with the biggest brand and institutional acceptance

Traditional and non-traditional asset classes will fluctuate over time. Stay diversified. Invest only money you don't need. Keep some dry powder so you can take advantage of any pullbacks.

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2021-05-15 20:37:33 Bitcoin can be 100% renewable, we will simply harness the steaming hate for Elon Musk emanating from this subreddit.

Ironically, Bitcoin’s high energy demand is exactly what incentivises it to powered by renewables. Is that Irony? Probably not.

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2021-05-15 19:37:33 use their staking pools to stake their coins, making the blockchain extremely vulnerable and insecure.

There are frankly so many other glaring inefficiencies with the staking model which I really cannot get into at once, including things like indeterminable cost of attack and inevitable centralization of jurisdiction over stake-slashing.

We need to stop letting wilfully ignorant mainstream media with thinly-veiled agendas dragoon us into adopting centralized, undemocratic, inefficient, basically bullshit protocols which they can easily take over.

All blockchains except Bitcoin have a central figurehead/supreme leader. I sincerely hope for the sake of people investing in these projects that these leaders carefully consider the glaring and crippling demerits of transitioning to such a flawed consensus model.

I do believe most of these blockchains make compromises to somehow distinguish themselves and say, "look we're faster, scalable etc." but it's ultimately a self-defeating gambit.

If the energy expenditure of gold mining, the banking system and, I must include this, rocket-launching are essential, then Bitcoin's energy expenditure is, in my personal opinion, the more essential expenditure of energy in the 7000-year history of money. It has the potential to efficiently replace gold & the banking system! Let's embrace renewables, but not be so ignorant to say proof of work wastes energy.

So Bitcoin could actually effect a net reduction in energy expenditure for human value exchange besides finally "taking the thing out of the hands of government."

Decentralization tolerates no compromise.



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2021-05-15 19:37:31 Deep dive - Proof of work is non-negotiable. Proof of stake is a terrible consensus model

Another long post. I request that you bear with me and I hope this allows people to understand that proof of work is non-negotiable for a public blockchain.

We've grown into this habit of dismissing even the most legitimate fact-based criticism as FUD so I'm not going to specifically mention any names here at all but just focus on proof of stake as a consensus model vis-a-vis public blockchains.

Last cycle, they were shilling you blatantly centralized consensus models like dPOS and private, permissioned blockchains where, just like the banking system, there was no way for the user to verify the truth. You just had a bank account. Except, instead of trusting bankers, they asked you to trust a handful of strangers from across the world with little legal recourse. You don't need a blockchain for this but people actually ate this shit up!

This cycle, it's all about how POS is the way forward because POW consumes too much energy. People are actually suggesting, with a straight face, that Bitcoin should switch to POS. Seriously? Talk about the tail trying to wag the dog. Should be careful mentioning dogs, lest another scammer gets inspired to create a $10 billion mcap token for less than 2 minutes of effort.

The ubiquity of ignorance and blissful dunning-kruger-fest on social media with regards to proof of work after all these years is disappointing. Even more disappointing is how individuals who are looked up to by the masses irresponsibly let down the masses by not doing their research and falling prey to scaremongering media coverage.

It's time to educate some of our misguided crypto brethren why proof of work is absolutely indispensable for blockchains. Indeed, if you're thinking about a non-POW blockchain, you really don't need a blockchain.

Speaking of effort, that's the whole point. If there is no effort, then the consensus model is doomed. Work is the most fundamental criteria for a blockchain protocol. Not only does it make the network unassailable, but it also ensures that there is no barrier of entry for absolutely anyone anywhere in the world to participate in the network, do the work and be rewarded. You simply cannot eliminate this property of permissionless for a public blockchain. Non-negotiable!

Perhaps most critical of all, mining provides the value anchor for blockchains, as a factor of real-world expenditures. That's why Bitcoin's price evinces a close correlation to its hash rate! Next time someone asks what Bitcoin's value is based on, tell them Bitcoin's value is based on the real-world cost expenditure undertaken by miners.

Only without proof of work, a blockchain asset's value is based on nothing. The asset is as good as a dog meme token.

Not only that, with a proof of work network, miners are required to constantly upgrade their hardware, entailing continual overhead cost. This ensures that newly generated coins are equitably distributed across the network, controlled only by the supply/demand dynamics. With proof of stake, there's no real-world cost, no overhead cost, zilch! This means the big boys keep increasing their share and clout by gobbling up the supply inflation and dumping the actual inflation itself on the little fellas. Sounds familiar? Bingo! That's fiat money. #CantillonEffect

With proof of stake, if a handful of rich people buy up enough coins, they'll become your masters. Proof of work constantly moves money the other way, diluting the concentration of wealth from the rich to the poor as the number of wallets increase.

But miners control POW blockchains, right? Wrong! This always makes me chuckle when people say it with such conviction. Instead of me explaining this one, I urge you to read this from the Bitcoin wiki.

With permissioned staking models, the government can easily take them down since there are a finite points of failure. This is amplified by centralized exchanges as most people will
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2021-05-15 18:37:36 Bitcoin Does not need the approval of billionaires to be relevant.

Bitcoin Does not need the approval of billionaires to be relevant.
If you are here only for this kind of news and articles. So that you can day trade your 1k dollars.
you should not be here.

Please stop posting Jack Dorsey did this, or an elongated muskrat did that. These men are scammers and do not care a bout you at all.

Billionaires on the internet will not help you stack sats or take custody of your private keys.
Billionaires on the internet will not give you correct or timely information that will help you.
Billionaires on the internet are not your friends and do not care a bout you at all.

Jack Dorsey actively bans bans people for mean words.
You want this guy as the voice of bitcoin? Then it is a matter of time be for your transactions are banned as well. or the majority of users are convinced being censored is for there own good.

[**Elon Musk**@elonmusk](https://twitter.com/elonmusk)·[Apr 19, 2019](https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1119093220544147457) My Twitter is pretty much complete nonsense at this point.
Well he was right a bout one thing.
a man whos soul profitable business model is selling California carbon credits and duping business investors.

for the old BTC hands you need to condemn these men and there disreputable actions they are bad actors.
for the new BTC hands you need to learn how the system works and stop chasing headlines because some one name dropped your for favorite day time reality internet billionaire.

Stack sats, HODL on, and use the laser eyes to kill every thing in the room that does not conform to the principals of bitcoin.

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# Principles of Bitcoin

All changes and upgrades to the protocol should strive to maintain and reinforce these **Principles of Bitcoin**

* **21 million coins.**
* **No censorship:** Nobody should be able to prevent valid txs from being confirmed.
* **Open-Source:** Bitcoin source code should always be open for anyone to read, modify, copy, share.
* **Permissionless:** No arbitrary gatekeepers should ever prevent anybody from being part of the network (user, node, miner, etc).
* **Pseudonymous:** No ID should be required to own, use Bitcoin.
* **Fungible:** All coins are equal and should be equally spendable.
* **Irreversible Transactions:** Confirmed blocks should be set in stone. Blockchain History should be immutable.

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2021-05-15 17:37:25 Tesla and me

I have suspended plans to purchase a Tesla. I am concerned about the rapidly increasing use of toxic battery technology and fossil fuels in the building and charging of Tesla cars, especially coal, which has the worst emissions of any fuel.

Electric cars are a good idea on many levels and I believe they have a promising future, but that cannot come at great cost to the environment.

I will not be selling any Tesla stock at this time and intend to look at them again once the company transitions to a more sustainable and environmentally-friendly business model. I am also looking at other EV brands, that are <1% as reliant on government subsidies.

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